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1.1 ! root 1: X-Trace: MS Version 3.24 on ibm032 host dublin.itc.cmu.edu, by zs01 (623). ! 2: Date: Mon, 25 May 87 10:30:10 edt ! 3: From: zs01#@andrew.cmu.edu (Zalman Stern) ! 4: To: [email protected] (Richard M. Stallman) ! 5: Subject: Re: RT diffs for gdb version 2.1 ! 6: Cc: kazar#@andrew.cmu.edu (Mike Kazar), zs01#@andrew.cmu.edu (Zalman Stern) ! 7: In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> ! 8: ! 9: Richard, ! 10: ! 11: First I will cover the easy questions. ! 12: ! 13: Either of our fixes to environ.c (i.e. with respect to version 1.9 which was ! 14: broken) will work. As I understand it, the intent of init_environ is to fill ! 15: in the environment and leave a little extra space for later additions. I do ! 16: not understand why you would want to only leave the extra space when the ! 17: original size was within 10 elements of the final size. ! 18: ! 19: add_com returning something is probably left over from a fix I put in which ! 20: is superceeded by the "user" class to distinguish command lists from function ! 21: pointers. I should have removed it. ! 22: ! 23: We use csh instead of sh because I got tired of putting up with sh's crapping ! 24: out on large environments. ! 25: ! 26: The change to inferior_args involves putting an explicit initializer of NULL ! 27: on it, and testing it for NULL before freeing it. I guess most ! 28: implementations of free ignore NULL pointers. The one we have on our Sun-2's ! 29: does not. ! 30: ! 31: I can't remember why the alloca's were moved out of the variable ! 32: initializations. It may have been to avoid a compiler problem. In any event, ! 33: ignoring this modification shouldn't hurt. ! 34: ! 35: Now for the hard ones... ! 36: ! 37: The RT is a very different architecture from either a Sun or a VAX. It does ! 38: not use a self-describing stack frame and it does not use the same ! 39: conventions for symbols within object modules. There are also certain ! 40: subtleties to the way it lays out its address space that cause problems. Many ! 41: people at the ITC, including myself, are very impressed with the quality of ! 42: the port Mike did in spite of these obstacles. You may feel that these ! 43: problems are not worth effort. I have attempted to describe the differences ! 44: involved with the RT in case you choose to address them. If not, we are still ! 45: quite happy with the debugger we have and thank you for providing us with the ! 46: code... ! 47: ! 48: Both the 68k family and the VAX have a frame pointer and a stack pointer. ! 49: Using these to values and the information on the stack, one can do a complete ! 50: stack trace. The RT on the other hand has only a stack pointer and a very ! 51: loose concept of a frame pointer. The stack pointer will point just below a ! 52: section of the stack dedicated to the maximum number of outgoing parameters ! 53: minus 4 (the first 4 are in registers). The frame pointer will point ! 54: somewhere in the stack where the compiler has deemed it optimal for ! 55: addressing locals and parameters. There are variable length fields in the ! 56: stack frame, such as the register save areas. In all, the thing looks like ! 57: so: ! 58: ! 59: ! 60: Higher Address ! 61: ----------------- ! 62: ! 63: a) Incoming args 5 through N <---- Previous sp was here ! 64: (part of previous function's stack frame) ! 65: b) Four words to save register passed arguments. ! 66: c) Four words of linkage area (reserved). ! 67: d) 1 word static link. ! 68: e) 1 - 16 words of register save area. ! 69: (Variable length, return address is at the top of this since it was in ! 70: r15) ! 71: f) 0 -8 words of floating point reg. save area. (Variable length) ! 72: g) Local variables (variable length) ! 73: h) Outgoing arguments, words 5 - N <---- Current sp points to bottom of this. ! 74: ! 75: Lower Address ! 76: ---------------- ! 77: ! 78: These and the stack contents are not enough to get back to the previous stack ! 79: frame because you do not know how far back it is to the register save area. ! 80: The code works because each function has been compiled to know how to pop its ! 81: stack frame (i.e. it has embedded constants). In order to facilitate ! 82: debugging, there is a trace table at the end of each function containing all ! 83: the necessary information. (Namely the offset from the frame pointer to the ! 84: top of the stack frame b in the above diagram) The trace table is located by ! 85: starting at the beginning of the function and looking for the illegal ! 86: instruction sequence 0xdf07df. Since the RT does not have 32bit constants in ! 87: the instruction stream, this actually works. In general, the iar and the ! 88: stack pointer are needed to do frame manipulations. The cache is necessary ! 89: because finding the trace table is very expensive. In short, the machinery ! 90: present in gdb was not up to handling this system, so we added what we ! 91: thought would work. It is interesting to note that similar calling ! 92: conventions are used on other RISC machines, notably the MIPS R2000. If you ! 93: wish to take advantage of these high performance machines, you will have to ! 94: do something like what we have done. ! 95: ! 96: The POP_DUMMY_FRAME problem is related to this. The RT stores return address ! 97: in r15. We can not use this location to store the current iar since we must ! 98: store r15 for later restoration. This rules out using the same function for ! 99: popping both kinds of frames. There is also some hassle involved in getting ! 100: the stack and frame pointers correct, but I think this might be fixed by ! 101: generating an appropriate trace back table for the dummy function. ! 102: ! 103: The other problem we faced is the non-standard use of symbols within object ! 104: modules. The RT defines two symbols for a function foo. There is "_.foo" ! 105: which corresponds to the actual code in the text segment (just like "_foo" on ! 106: a Sun or VAX), and "_foo" which points to the data area for the function in ! 107: the data segment. The first word of the data area contains a pointer to the ! 108: code. A function pointer (i.e. int (*foo)()) points to the data area (_foo), ! 109: not the code (_.foo). This is what the TYPE_CODE_PTR modification in valops.c ! 110: is for. Since both of these symbols are used for certain things, we cannot ! 111: simply remove the dots. This is a bogus IBM feature and we do not like it any ! 112: better than you do. We have to live with it if we want a working debugger. ! 113: ! 114: The "fix" to find_pc_misc function handles a special case on the RT where ! 115: certain functions are in the high end of the address space. The RT uses the ! 116: top 4 bits of an address as a segment number. The text segment is seg. 0, the ! 117: data segment is seg. 1, and the kernel is mapped into seg. 14. Certain kernel ! 118: functions (i.e. floating point functions) are directly callable by user code ! 119: and so occur in the misc_function_vector. I realize this is bogus. ! 120: ! 121: The initialization code will not run because both the RT compilers (pcc and ! 122: hc) output ascii data in the text section preceding the first function. Pcc ! 123: outputs the name of each function before the function. Hc outputs the name of ! 124: the source file at the beginning of the object module. Coding around this may ! 125: be possible, but what is the point? I see no reason for this hackery. I have ! 126: had problems getting it to work not only on the RT, but on the Sun-3. It is ! 127: guaranteed to be a portability headache on many other machines as well. If ! 128: you intend for gdb to only work when compiled with gcc, I suppose you may be ! 129: able to use this method. ! 130: ! 131: I strongly agree with your statements that cleaner solutions are better in ! 132: every way. Unfortunately, we did not write gdb, nor is the system we are ! 133: working with particularly supportive of symbolic debugging. We were faced ! 134: with the task of both figuring out gdb, and hacking our way around a ! 135: contorted system (featuring among other things, a plethora of compiler bugs). ! 136: The fact that our version of gdb is the only working symbolic debugger on the ! 137: IBM RT (despite much effort by IBM) is proof that we have done something ! 138: right. I am willing to discuss what would make this port better. However, it ! 139: is not our intent to maintain or rewrite gdb. We merely wish to use it, and ! 140: if not a terrible hassle, let other people use it too. Mike and I would ! 141: prefer a copyright assignment. I would appreciate it if you would send me ! 142: info on what we need to do. ! 143: ! 144: -Z- ! 145: ! 146: ! 147:
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